Can-Am Spyder-Roadster

[JeffeVerde]

Originally Posted by spyderyder24

thanks Gordon , just passed my M1 AND C CLASS TODAY WHEW !

So.... did you take your M1 driving test on the Spyder?

[JeffeVerde]

Originally Posted by spyderyder24

yes i got the ticket on a can am spyder with no violation , just cited me for driving a can am in cali w/o a m1 license .

From the 2008 California DMV's Motorcycle Handbook, page 4, License Requirements-

NOTE: Class C licensees may operate a motorcycle with a side car attached or a three-wheel motorcycle.

What's the specific vehicle code section cited on the ticket?

[ninja_o]

yesterday coming back from work i saw one on I-280 in Bay area. I would be scared to ride it. its sooo low to the ground freeway would scare me.. it wasn't exactly the one in the pic but something closer all white and hot looking!

[spyderyder24]

you are absolutely correct on that pete ! I told the officer that the can am spyder is not a motorcycle and is registerd as R/S road street category . I just need to bring the 2008 motorcycle handbook so i can show the judge that class c license may operate a motorcycle with a sidecar or a three wheeled vehicle... Thanks for the reply pete !

ps. still looking for a used honda vtx 1300 r

[trigger]

Love research. I could bring a copy of the handbook along and attempt to explain to base security the difference between the Spyder and M1. If they overrule, I'm still safe with the M1 rating.


A motorcycle:
• Has a seat for the rider and is designed to travel on two or not more than three wheels.(2)

California issues the following license classes for two-wheel vehicle operation:
• Class M1—You may operate any two-wheel motorcycle, motor-driven cycle, or motorized scooter and all vehicles listed under Class M2.(4)
• Class M2—You may operate any motorized bicycle, any bicycle with an attached motor, or a motorized scooter.(4)
NOTE: Class C licensees may operate a motorcycle with a side car attached or a three-wheel motorcycle.(4)
NOTE:The permit and license requirements in this handbook pertain to two-wheel vehicles and are referenced in Section 12804.9 of the Vehicle Code.(4)

California Motorcycle Handbook. DMV. 2008.
28 June 2008 <http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/dl655/dl665mcycle.pdf>

[matthewp]

Originally Posted by trigger

Love research. I could bring a copy of the handbook along and attempt to explain to base security the difference between the Spyder and M1. If they overrule, I'm still safe with the M1 rating.


A motorcycle:
• Has a seat for the rider and is designed to travel on two or not more than three wheels.(2)

California issues the following license classes for two-wheel vehicle operation:
• Class M1—You may operate any two-wheel motorcycle, motor-driven cycle, or motorized scooter and all vehicles listed under Class M2.(4)
• Class M2—You may operate any motorized bicycle, any bicycle with an attached motor, or a motorized scooter.(4)
NOTE: Class C licensees may operate a motorcycle with a side car attached or a three-wheel motorcycle.(4)
NOTE:The permit and license requirements in this handbook pertain to two-wheel vehicles and are referenced in Section 12804.9 of the Vehicle Code.(4)

California Motorcycle Handbook. DMV. 2008.
28 June 2008 <http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/dl655/dl665mcycle.pdf>

Remember, my fellow government minion, the DOD rules are based on federal DOT requirements for motorcycles (that and any other requirement they, or any of the separate armed forces, add on in the name of safety IE: the USAF allowing ONLY FF helmets), which may vary from one or more state requirements. I do believe there are states that do require a motorcycle license/endorsement/whatever to ride a trike/spyder.

[JeffeVerde]

Originally Posted by trigger

Love research. I could bring a copy of the handbook along and attempt to explain to base security the difference between the Spyder and M1. If they overrule, I'm still safe with the M1 rating.

I suspect the response would be along the lines of "Rules, shmooles - Uncle Sam owns your a$$, son. We are the rules"

[trigger]

haha
My fellow government minions, hail to the a$$-owner!

[spyderyder24]

no ! i just took the written part of it . i don't think i really need M-1 license but i can use it when i get my two wheel next year. spoke to one of the dmv employees and he said i need m1 license and i will take the actual test using a two wheel motorcycle...can you believe that ??? that's here in fullerton california dmv !

[JeffeVerde]

Originally Posted by spyderyder24

no ! i just took the written part of it . i don't think i really need M-1 license but i can use it when i get my two wheel next year. spoke to one of the dmv employees and he said i need m1 license and i will take the actual test using a two wheel motorcycle...can you believe that ??? that's here in fullerton california dmv !

If someone at the DMV is telling you that you must have an M1 to ride the Spyder (and they're wrong, btw), you should show up on the Spyder for your driving test. Then let them try to explain why you can't use the Spyder to take the test to get the license they they claim you need to ride the Spyder . Even better - have a friend video tape the conversation and post it up in the humor section -- I'd love to hear that explanation